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Jan 6, 2009
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ROY-g-BIV
Joined: Nov 20, 2007
Posts: 183
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This new cut of the empire state games are ridiculous. For the kids who do wrestle freestyle and greco its what they look foward to doing. Does anyone else this is an outrage?
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Jan 6, 2009
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Black&Blue
Joined: Dec 27, 2008
Posts: 367
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Are you sure this is the case?
What is the reasoning behind it?
Yes it would be foolish to drop Freestyle and Greco.
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Jan 7, 2009
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ROY-g-BIV
Joined: Nov 20, 2007
Posts: 183
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right on the front page of armdrag there is an article saying the might drop the empire state games or charge contestants 300 dollars
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Jan 7, 2009
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 jukeboxhero
Joined: Feb 2, 2005
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They are going to drop a few events. Adult wrestling being one of them. I didn't read anything about the high school wrestling.
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Jan 9, 2009
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 matburn
Site Admin Joined: Nov 12, 2004
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SOURCE: http://www.nysparks.state.ny.us/news/press/view.asp?pressID=719
New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation wrote:January 09, 2009
State Parks Announces Plan for 2009-10 Empire State Games
Participation Fees, Discontinuation of Certain Events Necessary to Preserve Games for High School and Physically Challenged Athletes, while Addressing Record State Budget Deficits
The New York State Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation today outlined a plan that preserves the Governor Hugh L. Carey Empire State Games for high school and physically challenged athletes, while also taking necessary action to address an economic downturn that is severely impacting the state budget.
In the 2009-10 fiscal year, participation fees of $285 and up to $100 will be implemented for the Summer and Winter Games, respectively. Previously, there had been no participation fee. The Games for the Physically Challenged will continue to have no participation fee.
In addition, the annual Senior Games, and all Masters, and Open competitions in the Winter and Summer Games, will be suspended for the 2009-10 fiscal year. Certain events and activities for high school athletes and the physically challenged will also be suspended or scaled back, as detailed below.
The changes for the 2009-10 fiscal year are in response to a 10 percent agency spending reduction ordered to help the state address a precipitous reduction in revenues caused by a deep recession. The Empire State Games, which originated in 1978, has operated on an annual budget of $3 million – including $2.7 million in state funding support. State funding support will be discontinued in 2009-10.
"In a time of unprecedented fiscal crisis, the unfortunate reality is that reductions have to be made across every area of government," said Carol Ash, Commissioner of the Office of Parks, Recreation and Historic Preservation. "We have sought to strike an appropriate balance that allows the Games to continue for high school and physically challenged athletes, while also helping the state address its record $15.4 billion deficit."
Looking ahead to the 2010 Summer Games in Buffalo, Ash indicated that the agency would be pursuing private sponsorship with the hope of reinstating the suspended competitions, as well as revisiting the new fee structure.
Further information on the Games is included below:
The Summer Games: July, 2009, Mid-Hudson ValleyA $285 fee for scholastic-level athletes will be implemented. The fee will cover the cost of room, board and local transportation during the four-day event. Scholastic boxing, fencing, and shooting will be suspended for the 2009 summer games.
The Winter Games: February, 2010, Lake Placid
Athletes will continue to pay for their own meals and lodging, as they have traditionally done. The opening ceremonies will also be scaled back. A participation fee of up to $100 will be implemented.
The February 2009 Winter Games will be held as planned with no fee. However, three sporting events will be suspended (bobsled, luge, and skeleton).
The Games for the Physically Challenged: May, 2009, Long Island; October, 2009, Brockport The Games for the Physically Challenged, for athletes 5-21 years old, will have streamlined activities and events.
Information on the Empire State Games, including details on registration, can be found at www.empirestategames.org.
The reduction in state support for the Empire State Games is one of several steps State Parks has taken to address the state's fiscal crisis, including reducing operations at state parks and historic sites, eliminating the 2009 State Park Police academy, instituting a hard hiring freeze, eliminating state support for the Heritage Areas program, and others.
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Jan 19, 2009
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theunderdogwrestler
Joined: Jun 28, 2008
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I agree with Roy I'm angered by it; there are so many kids that even looked forward to even just the try-outs. There are so many kids, and even adults that are better in greco and freestyle then they are in folk style. But now I'll need to find some more greco and free style events.
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Jan 19, 2009
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the tilt
Joined: Feb 3, 2008
Posts: 64
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It was on the news a few nights ago that the ESGames are canceled completely because there is no state funding left for it. Our state is BROKE
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Jan 20, 2009
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lovethepain!
Joined: Sep 15, 2008
Posts: 53
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ROY-g-BIV wrote:This new cut of the empire state games are ridiculous. For the kids who do wrestle freestyle and greco its what they look foward to doing. Does anyone else this is an outrage? I wrestled there two years ago and it was nice not having to pay to go, but for $300 you should not complain, yea it sucks but imagin the price to go to fargo, $1500
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Jan 20, 2009
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Oldskool
Joined: Feb 1, 2004
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I also read that they are cancelled for this summer.
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Jan 20, 2009
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CAWrestling
Joined: Jan 20, 2009
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Location: Coxsackie, Athens NY |
I wrestled in High School and College. I am convinced that this sport, for many of the reasons everyone on this board knows, is one of the main reasons i've become successful in my current career. Wrestling causes you to hold yourself accountable for winning or losing.
When I see Wrestling (or even sports in general) being cut, it saddens me, and worries me. I don't know where i'd be without Wrestling, so I wonder how many children will shoot off into a different, perhaps less character building direction because of this. I have many fond memories of Empire State games. I would hope future generations of wrestlers will also have them.
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Jan 20, 2009
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johnnyrooster
Joined: Nov 28, 2008
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Location: Hen House |
CAWrestling wrote:I wrestled in High School and College. I am convinced that this sport, for many of the reasons everyone on this board knows, is one of the main reasons i've become successful in my current career. Wrestling causes you to hold yourself accountable for winning or losing.
When I see Wrestling (or even sports in general) being cut, it saddens me, and worries me. I don't know where i'd be without Wrestling, so I wonder how many children will shoot off into a different, perhaps less character building direction because of this. I have many fond memories of Empire State games. I would hope future generations of wrestlers will also have them.
You are so right. I am convinced that there is no sport equal to wrestling that builds so many character traits it takes to be successful later in life. Many years ago I was interviewing for a job with the company that I work for now. Once the decision maker found out my wrestling background I wrapped up the job. He held such high regard for the self disipline it takes to succeed at the sport that he looked no further.
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Jan 20, 2009
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 matburn
Site Admin Joined: Nov 12, 2004
Posts: 3458
Location: WNY |
Petition to save the games:
http://www.petitiononline.com/SavESG09/
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Jan 20, 2009
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lombardo
Joined: Jun 7, 2005
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The current status of the Empire State Games is much bigger than wrestling. Everyone who has participated in athletics or supports the positive affects athletics has on our society should take time to sign and send the ESG petition. Our political representatives must hear from each of us in support of continuing the proud tradition of the Empire State Games. Every NYS resident that has competed in or dreams of competing in the winter, summer and handicap games should be heard. It is more important than ever to let our feelings be known.
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Jan 20, 2009
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theunderdogwrestler
Joined: Jun 28, 2008
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Everybody that supports wrestling or sports should sign this petition. NY State is taking away something that means so much to kids, adults, and the citizens. I personally was looking forward to the games, I went last year and I was going to try-out again hoping to make it. This was a high prestige tournament that everyone should support, and if you dont sign the petition then we are losing support for wrestling as a hole.
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Jan 20, 2009
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johnnyrooster
Joined: Nov 28, 2008
Posts: 1097
Location: Hen House |
which hole?
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