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Apr 28, 2011
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mikesk
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So now with the new weight changes can anyone say if we are going to keep 96 for a fact or drop it?
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Apr 28, 2011
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GrappleDad15
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mikesk wrote:So now with the new weight changes can anyone say if we are going to keep 96 for a fact or drop it?
Here are the three options the exec committee faces:
1. Drop it entirely and remain consistent w/Federal weights
2. Adopt lighter weight, however, I don't see it being 96 lbs since that would be a 10 lb spread. Maybe 98 - 100.
3. Remain the status quo as is in NYS.
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Apr 28, 2011
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mikesk
Joined: Jan 7, 2010
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Would you happen to know when we will find out?
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Apr 28, 2011
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mikef272002
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I think it would be foolish to drop 96lbs, if anything we should have less upper weights and more middle and lower weights since that is where the average high school kid is at..Taking away 96lbs just puts that light 7th or 8th grader in a tougher 106 class, if he was able to even make the Min. weight for 106. What we need is to take away an upper weight and add a lower or middle weight..
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Apr 29, 2011
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crossbow
Joined: Mar 21, 2010
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Well said. Keep 96 and add101
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Apr 29, 2011
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GrappleDad15
Joined: Apr 7, 2009
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crossbow wrote:Well said. Keep 96 and add101
The NFHS just recently approved or adjusted 14 weight classes. NYS is not going to add two more, maybe one, but definitely not 2.
NYS, thru a waiver with the NFHS years ago, can vote on an option to have a lower weight class in addition to the 14 established. It would be politically correct for NYS to adopt the new weights announced by NFHS and if they invoke their option to add another weight, then so be it. My best gut is if they adopt, it will be somewhere in the range of 98 - 100 only because of the gap to 106. I will be totally surprised to see NYS bring back 96 lbs with the next weight class being 106.
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Apr 29, 2011
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matburn
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mikef272002 wrote:Taking away 96lbs just puts that light 7th or 8th grader in a tougher 106 class, if he was able to even make the Min. weight for 106.
If the argument for adding a lighter weight class is so that lightweight 7th & 8th-graders can go Varsity, we should add all the missing Modified weights:* 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, & 100, for a nice round total of 20 weight classes!** Remember, not too long ago we had 91, 98, & 105.
* I just made these up; don't have the actual Modified weights in front of me.
** No, I'm not serious, though it would sorta-but-not-really give us the Modified state tournament we all want.
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May 3, 2011
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mikef272002
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matburn wrote:mikef272002 wrote:Taking away 96lbs just puts that light 7th or 8th grader in a tougher 106 class, if he was able to even make the Min. weight for 106.
If the argument for adding a lighter weight class is so that lightweight 7th & 8th-graders can go Varsity, we should add all the missing Modified weights:* 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, & 100, for a nice round total of 20 weight classes!** Remember, not too long ago we had 91, 98, & 105.
* I just made these up; don't have the actual Modified weights in front of me.
** No, I'm not serious, though it would sorta-but-not-really give us the Modified state tournament we all want.
Lets do it, lets go with 91, 98 and 105..! ..lol
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May 3, 2011
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wrestlingny
Joined: Dec 10, 2008
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mikef272002 wrote:matburn wrote:mikef272002 wrote:Taking away 96lbs just puts that light 7th or 8th grader in a tougher 106 class, if he was able to even make the Min. weight for 106.
If the argument for adding a lighter weight class is so that lightweight 7th & 8th-graders can go Varsity, we should add all the missing Modified weights:* 75, 80, 85, 90, 95, & 100, for a nice round total of 20 weight classes!** Remember, not too long ago we had 91, 98, & 105.
* I just made these up; don't have the actual Modified weights in front of me.
** No, I'm not serious, though it would sorta-but-not-really give us the Modified state tournament we all want.
Lets do it, lets go with 91, 98 and 105..! ..lol
I like It , NY should go back to it.
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May 3, 2011
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grapplewithme
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Wrestling is suppose to be for all sizes so even though there are some 7th and 8th graders wrestling 96lbs there will will always be 9-12th graders that don't weigh more than a 100lbs also. So I don't see how it would be fair to get rid of 96lb weight class.
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May 4, 2011
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dltd
Joined: Oct 25, 2010
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So now with the new weight changes can anyone say if we are going to keep 96 for a fact or drop it? What changes are they making exactly because Im planing to go 96lbs Next year. do you know for sure if there droping it
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May 4, 2011
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proudjvdad
Joined: Jan 25, 2010
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hope so cuz i'm lookin forward to watchin yannie d.
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May 4, 2011
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Kage
Joined: Feb 15, 2009
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So if they rid the lower weight, does that mean all the kids that did wrestle varsity at 96lbs (and barely made it the 88lbs) won't be able to wrestle any youth or modified because they have varsity experience??? "The Lost Wrestlers"
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May 4, 2011
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GrappleDad15
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I have heard from several reliable folks who have many years in the NYS wrestling community and everyone of them has indicated NYS committee will most likely exercise their waiver option and enact a lighter weight. Chances are it will be somewhere between 98-100, but not 96--it's too light from 106.
Also, just because a kid wrestled varsity one year, doesn't mean they can't wrestle modified or JV the next, depending on what grade they are in that next year. Level of competition does not carry forward from one year to the next. I've seen seniors wrestling JV. They still have to win wrestle offs if the competition exists.
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May 4, 2011
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nystto
Joined: Mar 9, 2010
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in one of the other forums someone said it will help modified. heres why it wont. half of the schools are dropping modified because of budgets. so if you have a 88lb 9th grader your kid cant wrestle pee wee cause of age, to light for jv or varsity. if your school dumps modified. all the good young wrestlers will get no matches for maybe 2 years. I've heard the older generation say that the system is trying to eliminate wrestling they might end up that way if these weights go through. so the answer is rush your kids to BK McDs or taco bell to make weight. just what we need more over weight americans. LOL
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